Episode 61: Grief Isn't the End, It Can Be a Beginning

Shortly after the loss of her son, she went right back to work as a news anchor, a very public life. But shortly after her return, she realized her heart just wasn’t in it anymore. She felt as if she had just been going through the motions, mostly because that was what was expected of her.

Episode 60: No Such Thing as Coincidence

When We Connect the Dots, We See Purpose in Life and Struggle

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Carol Campos doesn't believe in coincidence, but that doesn’t mean she knows exactly why anything actually happens.

But when she looks back at each decision she made, each relationship she spent time nurturing, and each of the choices she made, she can see all of the connections among those choices, bringing her to where she is right now.

From the last couple of years of high school, until she reached a point in a successful career, she followed the path she believed was expected of her. Though she switched gears periodically, and took different steps, she continued to move forward, almost stumbling through her career without real thought or intention.

And then - everything changed. Carol realized she was not only dissatisfied in her career, she didn’t really know how she defined success for herself. So she left her cozy career and took time to really dig into what she wanted, how she defines success, and what she wanted to do next.

So many of us are in transition right now, and with the current workforce shifts, the world of career and professionalism looks completely different from how it looked just five years ago. When we spend time looking back at our patterns, and how each of our choices connects to lead us forward, those transitions become smoother and more comfortable.

Here are a few references from our conversation:

E-Squared, by Pam Grout

Embracing Life Transitions As the New Normal, Podcast episode about transition, restaurant analogy

Elizabeth Gilbert: Flight of the Hummingbird The Curiosity Driven Life, Elizabeth Gilbert



Carol has worked in the corporate world for over 20 years, most recently in a leadership role at a Fortune 10 company. For years she felt that she was meant to do something different, but could never quite put her finger on what that was. For the last 7 years she has immersed herself in classes and workshops, learning about energy healing, meditation, as well as numerous spiritual and holistic topics. In early 2018 she left her corporate job and made the leap into the unknown. What she discovered was that she could combine her extensive business experience with these new, soul-aligned interests. Thus, The Divine Breadcrumb was born!

Carol is a certified Reiki practitioner as well as a certified Angel Card Reader. Most recently she was certified by the HeartMath Institute as an Add-Heart Facilitator, teaching a technique used by thousands of people, including Navy Seals, to achieve heart coherence — a state which greatly improves emotional and physical health.

Carol is passionate about traveling, learning about new cultures and helping people on their own path. She holds a B.A. in Communications from Hofstra University. Carol resides in Massachusetts with her rambunctious rescue cats, Petey and Emmett.

Episode 59: Old Stories Create New Pathways

What Stories From Your Past Still Color Your Present?

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His mother went to answer the door while his family sat at the supper table. Chris heard a man's voice, and watched as his father went into the living room. A demonstration and 40 minutes of answers to every objection later, that Electrolux vacuum salesman in the brown polyester suit with bad breath left with an order for a $3,000 machine.

Chris was 10 years old, and his image of a salesman was set for decades. Not only did his family have a vacuum cleaner they didn't need and couldn't afford, his parents bickered over it for months afterward.

Fast forward to Chris as a young adult with entrepreneurial aspirations and the realization that he'd have to get more comfortable with sales if he was going to be successful. He hired a coach who was able to peel back the layers of Chris's experience to find that vacuum salesman and his impact on how Chris saw the word "salesman."


80s Style: Friendship Pins

80s Style: Friendship Pins

In the beginning of our conversation, Chris mentioned his love for heavy metal music, particularly in the late 80s and early 90s. He spoke about wearing his Metallica jean jacket to church, and about having the opportunity to play guitar with a band on Sunday evenings in the same church, and blowing away the senior women with the sound. We made a few references during that part of our conversation, one to a scene in Back to the Future with Michael J. Fox, and another about my friend Ranjith Abraham, and his musical projects, Miles Apart.


Connect with Chris on LinkedIn, and check out his book, It’s Time to Sell. Learn more about Chris and his gifted approach to sales and leadership by visiting his website.

Episode 58: When a Decision Looks Spontaneous, But Isn't - Nicholas Rupp

A Story of Romance and Pivot Points

"Are we going to talk about this?!"

Michael was at a loss when Nicholas handed him the clipboard with a marriage application attached and said: "Here. Fill this out," and then disappeared.

What he didn't know was that Nicholas was making a quick trip home to get their passports, assuming they would need two forms of ID to get the marriage license.

It was when he ran back into the county clerk's office with passports in hand, that Michael asked him what he was up to.

"Michael, I was going to do this on Christmas, but the risk of losing the opportunity is too great. Will you marry me?" And he showed him the rings.

You never know what part of an adventure like that will stick in your memory, or what the pivot point lessons really are until months, or even years later.

Nicholas realized around their fourth anniversary, that if he didn't write down the story, capturing as many details as he could, that he would start to forget those important moments. So he wrote out the story in great detail and posted it on Facebook for his closest friends and family to see. One of those friends was so inspired by the post that she asked him if he would please make it public so she could share it. He did. And it went viral.

One interesting aspect in this story is how Nicholas and Michael choose to remember and celebrate the occasion. Some of their friends who were married that same day, or just a few days later, remember it as being rushed. Some of those people have some regret about the spontaneity of the decision. But not Nicholas and Michael. The entire story is part of their romance, and though their family didn’t get to participate on the day of their wedding, and the couple has some disappointment with that, they remember it with love and humor, knowing the story is unique and a big part of who they are as a couple.


Connect with Nicholas on LinkedIn to learn more about his professional life and career.


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Can You Bring Your Whole Self to Work?

Stories About Finding Your Fit

An introvert. That's how Jeff sees himself, despite being a successful salesman, and that's part of the reason his first career path led him to  a biology degree and a research position.

He realized at some point that spending all day every day in a lab, mostly by himself, didn't bring him as much satisfaction and stimulation as he thought it would. His colleague found her outlet as a bartender on weekends, and he realized he wanted to do something similar to bring some social activity into his life. Thanks to a few introductions from friends, he found himself training and then working as a DJ on weekends.

Not only did he enjoy the opportunity to get out on weekends, he liked the extra cash he earned. On top of that, he realized that despite his introverted tendencies, he was really good at engaging an audience and getting people to step out of their comfort zones.

After a few years of his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde life of research scientist by day, wild DJ at night, he started to feel that sense of dissatisfaction again. He realized he felt split, like he was living two completely different, separate lives, and he wanted to be able to bring his whole self to his whole life. That's when he started to explore other options in his field, and found a great fit as a salesman.

How many of us have started down a career path with interest and passion, only to realize the choices we made might not really satisfy all aspects of our character?

The question, then, is how to transition into something that's a good fit?

Jeff Bissen shares his story here, in the hopes that others will see themselves in his story, and make the necessary changes so they, too, can find satisfaction by finding a fit that allows them to bring their whole selves to work.


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