Episode 173: If You Want to Make a Positive Impact, Love the People You Want to Influence

Stories of a Truly Exceptional Teacher, and What Makes Her That Way

Tammie Schrader podcast episode cover art with image of Tammie.

Tammie Schrader podcast episode cover art with image of Tammie.

"I love you, now get out of here!"

That's how Tammie Schrader sent her 7th grade science students to their next class after the bell rang on the first day of school. And every day after that was the same.

After about 3 weeks, she missed the first part: "Okay, kids, get out of here!" She was gently nudged by her students who didn't stand up from their seats. "Mrs. Schrader, you forgot to start with 'I love you.'"

Tammie's students were treated to hands on learning in that classroom, and to an incredibly nurturing, encouraging environment. That's because she knows that the only way people learn is by doing, and the most effective way to teach is to care for - to love - the people you're trying to influence.

My favorite story Tammie shared was about students nearing their final days of middle school before the big graduation ceremony. They were reminded to be on their best behavior because any infraction would result in their not being allowed to participate in graduation festivities. Later that day, students were caught tossing one of their peers high into the air and catching him. When asked what they were thinking, they answered: “I don’t know, it didn’t seem like a big deal. We didn’t hurt anyone, everyone was having fun.”

Tammie asked: “When you were just about to toss your friend high into the air, did you take just a moment to look around the yard to make sure no adults were watching?” They nodded. “Then you knew, guys, you knew this might not be a good idea.”

Her TEDxSpokane talk is what caught my attention a few months ago. The dynamic way she presented her "idea worth sharing" had me compelled to watch and learn. I had to reach out to hear more of this extraordinary teacher's story.

We ran out of time before I could get an important question answered, "why did you leave the classroom?" It seemed like such a huge transition away from her purpose in terms of working with students.

With grace and generosity, Tammie emailed me the answer:

While working as a teacher, I was fortunate enough to have a superintendent, Dr. Michael Dunn, who possessed leadership qualities I had never experienced before. I remember sitting in on the superintendent interviews and recognizing that he was the only one that talked about serving students. This spoke to my heart. The great news is that the Cheney School Board had the thoughtfulness to recognize his incredibleness and hired him. Things in our district shifted immediately.

Dr. Dunn is the kind of man who shares his vision just by being himself. He was in buildings and classrooms all the time. He wrote personal emails wishing teachers well and genuinely cared about each of us. I was once stuck on Snoqualmie Pass on a Friday heading to a conference over the weekend.  Monday morning I had an email from Dr. Dunn expressing how grateful he was that I was safe. To this day I have no idea how he knew I had been stuck during snowstorm. 

Mike left Cheney to become the superintendent of an organization called an Education Service District (ESD) that serves 59 public school districts and upwards of 40 private schools. 7 years ago he asked me if I would apply to be the science coordinator for his organization. The conversation went something like this:

Me: Mike, I just love my classroom and I love my kids

Mike: Well I’m not asking you to come serve 59 school districts because you don’t love kids!

And I was sold. I will say I cried the whole time I packed my classroom and at least for the year after that. I did go to Mike after a year and told him I missed kids way too much, and his reply was simply: I totally understand and I get it, and I’ll remind you that you have access to 59 school districts full of kids. After that I made it a point to be in classrooms with kids at least weekly. Mike always seems to say the right thing at the right time.

Thanks for asking because you are so correct in knowing that leaving a classroom was one of the hardest decisions I’ve ever made. If it weren’t for Dr. Dunn’s leadership, I wouldn’t have done it. Ever.

You'll want to connect with Tammie on LinkedIn after listening to this episode and watching her TEDx talk!

Podcast cover art with Tammie Schrader quote and image from her TEDxSpokane talk in 2020.

Podcast cover art with Tammie Schrader quote and image from her TEDxSpokane talk in 2020.

Tammie is the Regional Science and Computer Science Coordinator for Northeast Washington Education Service District 101 in Washington State. She taught science at Cheney Middle School, in Cheney, Washington for 15 years. She's also an adjunct science methods instructor at Whitworth University. 

When she taught middle school, her subjects were Life Science, Computer Programming, Gaming Programming, Robotics, as well as coaching the Science Olympiad Team, Robotics Club, SeaPerch Team and Future Business Leaders of America.

She is currently enrolled as a Ph.D. candidate and am writing my dissertation on Leadership and Game Based Education in the Classroom.

In 2013, she was selected as a Hope Street Fellow, working on Education Policy around coding in the classroom, was also awarded a National Science Foundation grant working with Filament Games on Educational Video Games in the classroom, was selected as a 2008-2009 Teacher Fellow for the Department of Education, and was named Pacific Northwest Earth Science Teacher of the Year, among other accomplishments in her career.


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