394 The Driver of Innovation is Curiosity

Curiosity is in our nature as human beings, we crave knowledge and the answers to the how’s and why’s. Whether it be from a scientific standpoint, raising a child, or to work more cohesively with our coworkers, we must always stay curious so that we can always be growing. 

In this episode Sarah Elkins and Jeff Ikler discuss not just their vital work, but how they have maintained healthy relationships, and a positive mental state by always staying curious. 

394 The Driver of Innovation is Curiosity

Curiosity is in our nature as human beings, we crave knowledge and the answers to the how’s and why’s. Whether it be from a scientific standpoint, raising a child, or to work more cohesively with our coworkers, we must always stay curious so that we can always be growing. 

In this episode Sarah Elkins and Jeff Ikler discuss not just their vital work, but how they have maintained healthy relationships, and a positive mental state by always staying curious. 


Highlights

  • Avoiding the after conference hangover by having a support team to further your ideas and goals.

  • Taking something you deem important and holding onto it while using it as the foundation for something meaningful to be built.

  • You can’t please everyone, so cast a smaller net, tend to your audience.

  • How are you furthering yourself either with academic education or social education?

  • Walk away with at least one idea, even if you need to come up with it yourself or seek it out. Be intentional about what you choose to remember.

  • Let people get comfortable and feel safe before taking a risk.

  • What do you carry that reminds you of those who have shaped you?


Quotes

“I have to narrow it down to what’s one really good thing I can remember about this? Otherwise, for me, it can become overwhelming.”

“If you stand for everything, you stand for nothing.”

“Shoot with a rifle, not with a shotgun.”

“Glaciers move faster than changes in education.”

“The driver of innovation is curiosity.”


Dear Listeners it is now your turn,

Sarah: going to have Jeff ask you a few questions but first I’m going to ask you a couple questions. When you think about the stories that you tell, do they demonstrate your curiosity? Do they demonstrate your motivation or your ambition to learn and to grow as a human being? What is one story that you can point to that you can craft and develop, that is three minutes or shorter, that you know people will understand what matters to you and how you lead. I’d love to hear from you. Jeff, what are your conclusions for our listeners?

Jeff: So what I’m curious about is what came up for people as you and I were talking, because my hope, because this is like when we’re talking about the reflection part of the podcast, I want people to be wanting to walk away with something. 

So what’s the take away? What’s something that impacted you as Sarah and I were talking about how we go about doing our work, how we’re thinking about our work, and how it impacts on the work you’re doing.     

And, as always, thank you for listening. 



About Jeff

Jeff Ikler is Director of Quetico Career and Leadership Coaching, a firm dedicated to helping individuals overcome career issues and develop sustained changes in their leadership practices and organizations. He received his certificate in coaching from the Coach Training Institute. He is a certified innovation facilitator using the SIT (Systematic Inventive Thinking) process. Jeff holds a Master’s in the Teaching of History along with a Bachelor’s in History from the University of Illinois. He taught high school history in Maywood and Batavia, Illinois, for seven years. He is a former Executive Vice President at Pearson Learning where he directed the development of text- and technology-based products for all disciplines. Jeff is a co-author of Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. He is the host the “Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity” podcast. Supporting the agency of others is the river that has run through his entire career.

Be sure to check out Jeff’s Substack, LinkedIn as well as Quetico Coaching and Consulting!


About Sarah

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

Be sure to check out the Storytelling For Professionals Course as well to make sure you nail that next interview!

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384 Caring For Our Communities

In todays episode Sarah Elkins and Amy Daughters discuss a variety of topics, from finding their calm, to how they try to reach out to those in need of a friend, and the various ways they make others in their lives feel seen.

384 Caring For Our Communities

In todays episode Sarah Elkins and Amy Daughters discuss a variety of topics, from finding their calm, to how they try to reach out to those in need of a friend, and the various ways they make others in their lives feel seen.


Highlights

  • Where do you find your calm?

  • Polarization and how it destroys our community.

  • How do you make people feel seen?


Quotes

“I didn’t set out to do anything. I set out to be some crazy person who wants to write people letters.”

“I will save your letter in a special place in my home for the rest of my life.”


About Amy

Amy Weinland Daughters, Award-Winning Author and Keynote Speaker, believes in a world where what makes us different is the very thing that connects us, instead of separates us. She brings that world to life by helping people reconnect to each other through the power of hand-written letters. She brings her wit, humor, and having written 580 handwritten letters to every single one of her Facebook friends, to show you how you can find deep connections in some of the most unexpected places.

Be sure to check out Amy’s LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram!


About Sarah

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

Be sure to check out the Storytelling For Professionals Course as well to make sure you nail that next interview!

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346 The Words You Use

You lead from wherever you sit, which is why it is so important to be intentional with your thoughts, words, and motives as you go through life. 

In this episode Sarah Elkins and Erin Diehl discuss the importance of picking the right words for yourself and being intentional with the energy we bring to any situation.

346 The Words You Use

You lead from wherever you sit, which is why it is so important to be intentional with your thoughts, words, and motives as you go through life. 

In this episode Sarah Elkins and Erin Diehl discuss the importance of picking the right words for yourself and being intentional with the energy we bring to any situation.


Highlights

  • Picking the right mantra for yourself. Nothing is one size fits all.

  • Letting others voice their thoughts so they feel seen and heard.

  • Give yourself grace.


Quotes

“Rituals, and prayer, and mantras, and affirmations, and words mean a lot, but we have to really believe them and internalize them, in order to make a difference in our own life and then we can therefore change others once we have shaped ourselves.”

“I look back at past versions of me, that didn’t have some of the knowledge I have, and I just give her grace because she was just figuring it out and I’m still figuring it out.”


Dear Listeners it is now your turn,

What can you do in the words that you use, how can you shift to a “Yes, and” with your team,  your children, your partner, with your friends, how can you support the people around you and make sure you are living in alignment with how you live in the world.

And, as always, thank you for listening. 


About Erin

Erin “Big” Diehl is a Business Improv Edutainer, Failfluencer, and Professional Zoombie. Through a series of unrelated dares, Erin created improve it!, a unique professional development company rooted in improv comedy, that pushes leaders and teams to laugh, learn, play, and grow.

She is the proud host of The improve it! Podcast, a Top 1% Global Podcast, which helps develop leaders and teams through play, improv and experiential learning, and first time author of the Amazon Best Seller & Top New Release: I See You! A Leader’s Guide to Energizing Your Team Through Radical Empathy.

Among her many accolades, Erin is most proud of successfully coercing over 36,000 professionals to chicken dance.

Be sure to check out Erin’s LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and Erin’s websites It’s Erin Diehl, It’s Erin Diehl - I See You,  and Learn To Improve It!


About Sarah

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

Be sure to check out the Storytelling For Professionals Course as well to make sure you nail that next interview!










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Episode 183: Some Stories Are Meant to Be Told... Differently

Her life didn't start with unicorns and butterflies, and like many people who grow up without, she didn't really know it until school years when the comparison game began... seeing other girls with new, trendy clothes and all the accessories made her keenly aware of what she didn't have.

It's Not the Same Old Story with Lisa Caprelli

183 podcast cover art Lisa Caprelli image and quote

183 podcast cover art Lisa Caprelli image and quote

Her life didn't start with unicorns and butterflies, and like many people who grow up without, she didn't really know it until her high school years when the comparison games began. Seeing other girls with new, trendy clothes and all the accessories made her keenly aware of what she didn't have.

She knew there was more for her, and when a mentor saw her for the curious, ambitious, intelligent young woman she was, Lisa's natural talents were nurtured and expanded.

When she decided it was time to leave Texas and make her way to the beaches of southern California, people told her she was crazy, that she'd fail, and that she'd waste precious money and time trying to be something she wasn't. She didn't listen, thank goodness, because over the past 10 years, she has made significant, high impact, positive contributions to our communities, like her multiple best selling children's books, an Amazon TV series, and a successful marketing business.

Lisa did what others saw as impossible.

183 podcast cover art Lisa Caprelli quote

183 podcast cover art Lisa Caprelli quote

What makes Lisa so good at what she does? What motivated her to find her path? Listen to this episode of Your Stories Don't Define You to find out!

Visit Lisa's website to learn more about her work, and check out her children's book series, Unicorn Jazz. Be sure to follow her on LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to keep up with the great content she shares.


ABOUT SARAH:

Image of Sarah Elkins with promo language: ”story sharing coaching for leaders”

Image of Sarah Elkins with promo language: ”story sharing coaching for leaders”

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

Audiobook promotional cover art

Audiobook promotional cover art

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

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Episode 182: Do You Have a Personal Story Portfolio?

"I just don't think that way - in a linear timeline of events. I read your book, but I couldn't start collecting my stories, even when I tried to use the exercises and worksheets you provided."

Mary was getting ready for a series of interviews, and she knew preparing a few personal stories would be critical to truly engaging her interviewers and their audiences.

How to Collect Your Stories For Every Audience

Episode 182 podcast cover art with quote & image of Sarah Elkins

Episode 182 podcast cover art with quote & image of Sarah Elkins

"I just don't think that way - in a linear timeline of events. I read your book, but I couldn't start collecting my stories, even when I tried to use the exercises and worksheets you provided."

Mary was getting ready for a series of interviews, and she knew preparing a few personal stories would be critical to truly engaging her interviewers and their audiences.

Page 133 of the book, Your Stories Don’t Define You

Page 133 of the book, Your Stories Don’t Define You

When I started as a communication coach, my intention was to guide people toward useful self-reflection. That's the only way to be a good communicator, you have to know yourself, understand your role in miscommunication, and be aware of how you're being perceived by the people around you.

It's not about being a chameleon, changing who you are based on the person you're speaking with, it's about being intentional about what you want as the result of any interaction, and making adjustments in how you present information so you're more likely to be understood - and to understand.

I use storytelling as the foundation of my work because the stories people tell - and how they tell them - say a lot about who they are, how they think, and where they're getting in their own way.

After two sessions, Mary was getting frustrated at her inability to recall key parts of her life with any detail. She struggled with the structure I created in the book and felt like it was her failure in memory that was causing the problem.

At the beginning of our third session, I had a moment of clarity.

"Tell me about someone who was in your life briefly, and had a profound impact on you."

She immediately recalled a professor she struggled with during her master's degree program.

"What did he look like? Can you see him now, can you imagine he's in front of you?"

"Where would you have had a conversation with him? Put yourself there."

"When you think of a time you sat in that place with him, what is the conversation you're having?"

Suddenly a world opened up in front of us. My client had a vivid memory of a pivotal conversation she had with the professor. She recalled where they were standing, what had happened in the hours before, and exactly what happened in the days following.

It was a powerful memory and an incredible story.

Book cover image, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will

Book cover image, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will

The book Your Stories Don't Define You, How You Tell Them Will includes worksheets and exercises to guide readers to begin collecting stories in a story portfolio. The intention is to have a variety of stories ready to use at an appropriate time, with an appropriate audience.

The worksheets begin by asking about particular eras in the reader's life, a broad description like: "First year out of high school", "the year my father died", "my engagement and first year of marriage."

As the reader continues through the book, they're asked to recall certain pivotal moments within those eras, like a particular adventure or situation they experienced right after they graduated from high school, maybe a car accident or moving into the dormitory for their freshman year of college. The worksheets guide the reader to dig into those memories to uncover details about where they were, who was with them, and what made the moment scary, enlightening, exciting, awesome...

Working with Mary made me realize there are many other ways to collect these stories, and that some people don't think in such a linear way to be able to pick out eras as being pivotal parts of their lives.

At the end of our third session, I asked Mary to do some homework prior to our next appointment.

"Write down the names of two other people who had major influence on your life. Not your parents or direct family members - yet. Think about both positive and negative experiences, I know I have some unhappy, challenging memories of particular people who had influence on who I am today, for better or for worse."

She came back to our next session eager to begin, and we uncovered three more great stories for her portfolio.

Mary was ready for more homework.

"This week, jot down a few locations, places you visited or lived, that you know now were meaningful to you. Think about your first apartment, or maybe a house you lived in for a short time, but where important things happened when you lived there."

Our sessions from that point forward were full of energy, memories, and incredible discussions about her experiences with particular people and in particular locations.

By our sixth session together, she had a portfolio full of great story ideas, and she was ready to start fleshing them out into stories to practice telling in person, to prepare for the interviews she had scheduled, and to write as blog posts to share.

But we weren't done yet.

Now that she had great story ideas, it was time to categorize them so she'd have a better idea of when to share them!

We worked through her StrengthFinder results and discussed what was important to her in terms of how she was perceived, especially for the upcoming interviews.

Mary said: "I want to be known as reliable, knowledgable and competent in my field, and as someone with a sense of humor."

Slowly and carefully, we reviewed the many stories in her collection and categorized them:

  • These demonstrate my reliability.

  • These demonstrate my sense of humor.

  • This story demonstrates my knowledge in my field.

There were some that crossed multiple categories, of course.

Having this structure gave her confidence, particularly as we uncovered specific work-related stories that, instead of saying "I'm reliable!", she could share one that demonstrated her reliability. It no longer felt like bragging, it felt like a story, complete with an obstacle, other characters, a specific project, a location, and a successful conclusion.

As any author will tell you, I never really thought Your Stories Don't Define You was complete. If I hadn't made certain promises, it might never have been published. I always found changes I wanted to make and additions that would make it better.

But I remember reading the story portfolio instructions and reviewing the worksheets and thinking they were good, they were ready for readers to use.

They're still good, and many readers have found them to be a great start for their own story portfolios, but I suppose if I had it to do again, I might consider a few other options beyond starting with general eras in a lifetime.

If you're collecting stories for your story portfolio, remember that there isn't just one way to do anything. Use the tools that work for you. The important part is that you realize how your stories can influence your internal messages and the perceptions of others, and that you're beginning to collect them. 

And when you have one of your own "ah ha!" moments with one of these vivid memories, I hope you'll reach out and let me know.

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ABOUT SARAH:

Elkins Consulting logo plus image of Sarah Elkins with dog and Gallup StrengthsFinder Coach logo

Elkins Consulting logo plus image of Sarah Elkins with dog and Gallup StrengthsFinder Coach logo

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

Audiobook cover promo art

Audiobook cover promo art

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

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Episode 175: Is Your Team Missing Something? To Find Out, You Must Know What You Have vs. What You Don't

As a Communication & Inclusion Trainer, Alissa guides people in addressing awkward situations, helping them quickly adjust to things out of their control.

In a recent training, when she had to demonstrate that kind of adaptability because of technical glitches, she realized what a gift it ended up becoming for her and for the participants.

Diversity Isn't Enough, We Must Value and Celebrate Differences to Maximize the Extraordinary Benefits of a Diverse Team

Episode 175 Podcast Cover Art with image of Alissa Carpenter and quote from episode

As a Communication & Inclusion Trainer, Alissa guides people in addressing awkward situations, helping them quickly adjust to things out of their control.

In a recent training, when she had to demonstrate that kind of adaptability because of technical glitches, she realized what a gift it ended up becoming for her and for the participants.

By having to shift gears quickly and abandon her slides - her plan - she connected more deeply with the audience. They couldn't help but see how she navigated the technical challenge, move through it and adapt, and end up with an even better product in the end.

When she acknowledged the challenge, Alissa demonstrated a level of vulnerability that had a positive impact on her audience, likely far bigger than if everything had gone as planned.

Episode 175 Podcast cover art with quote from Alissa Carpenter

During our conversation, we talked about the situation as an opportunity, a gift, even though in the moment we rarely can see it in that light. But our reality is that lots of lessons happen that way.

We also covered a lot of ground about Strengths, where we've seen our own strengths as talents vs. obstacles, and how we've guided our clients toward valuable self-reflection about where their strengths might also be getting in their way.


Connect with Alissa on LinkedIn, grab a copy of her book, How to Listen and How to Be Heard: Inclusive Conversations at Work, and check out her website, Everything's Not Okay and That's Okay.


ABOUT SARAH:

Elkins Consulting logo with image of Sarah Elkins and book cover

Elkins Consulting logo with image of Sarah Elkins and book cover

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

Audiobook promotional image

Audiobook promotional image

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

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Episode 146: Transformation Requires a Retelling of Your Story

When we talked about "liminal space", I started to truly apply what I had learned from that article years before, clarity coming as a gift from Heather about liminal space and its relationship with transition and transformation.

Holding Space for Others Leaves More Room for You

I didn't realize until partway through our recording that it was Heather Plett's article about holding space that had caught - and kept - my attention for five years.

When I read the article, I remember sharing it widely and making great efforts to apply Heather's guiding principles to my conversations with our sons, my husband, and my coaching clients.

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Heather sent me her book as a gift prior to our conversation, and as I read it I found myself nodding in agreement, immediately connecting dots around my work in communication coaching, and having enough "ah ha" moments about where I've fallen short in my efforts that it made my head spin.

I had to slow down and absorb, rather than rush through so I'd be prepared for our call.

As we talked through some of the parts of the book that really stood out as I read, it finally dawned on me that this was the author of that article I loved so much, and that had such an impact on me more than five years ago.

Heather shared some great moments on her journey so far, about the origins of her viral article, her thoughts about what "holding space" means now, after that phrase has become overused, and how she sees different layers in how we can listen more compassionately and deeply depending on what's being shared.

When we talked about "liminal space", I started to truly apply what I had learned from that article years before, clarity coming as a gift from Heather about liminal space and its relationship with transition and transformation.


The entire conversation was a gift to me, and hopefully a gift to listeners. You will want to get your hands on this book, The Art of Holding Space, a Practice of Love, Liberation, and Leadership.

Be sure to visit Heather's website to learn more about her work, and follow or connect with her on LinkedIn to see what she shares on that platform.

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Sarah Elkins loves to guide individuals and teams to improve communication, using storytelling as the foundation of her work. She is a Gallup certified Strengths coach and uses that tool to coach her clients to improve their communication in all relationships, and to find more satisfaction at work and at home.

Her book, Your Stories Don't Define You, How You Tell Them Will is available on bookshop.org (supporting independent booksellers), and on Amazon.

The audiobook will be available on November 4, 2020, and includes two songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change! Visit her website for updates.

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